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Gee, Thanks Apple!

From the original Analog Industries archive. Some links and images from that era no longer resolve.

New Logic Studio out today. I’m embarrassed to admit I knew nothing about it. At all. Of course, I don’t make a habit of checking every day to see what new and exciting things are happening with those bong-smoking hippies in Cupertino, so there’s that, and I apologize.

That said, it isn’t in my ADC account. I don’t know if it wasn’t seeded to devs at all, or just wasn’t seeded to me (always a possibility) but I didn’t hear a single peep about it until this morning. But the upshot is that I can’t test our stuff with it until I have it, so I’ll be busy sending off missives to the various people I’ve been in touch with to see if I can’t get a copy for testing. Until then, we have no reason to expect that there’s any issues with AD products and Logic 9. Anyone that could verify that before me will win my undying gratitude.

As far as features of the new one go, as you all know I left Logic years ago for other pastures, and use Cubase 5 and Live 8 for 99% of my production work these days (depending on what I’m trying to accomplish) so from a producer’s standpoint, as opposed to a developer’s, I have nothing to offer on the new one except that it seems that GarageBand and Logic are showing convergent evolution. Some of the audio editing features look kind of cool, but nothing really grabs me by the neck and shakes me about. The only really nifty thing seems to be the new Apogee floor controller, really.

EDIT: Someone that has a fair portion of our catalog, and has been beta-testing Logic 9, just wrote to say that he’s had no issues whatsoever with AD stuff.

10 comments

  1. neB

    looks promising...although, it's pretty shitty to not give a bit of a heads up to all their 3rd party developers and, especially, newly purchased users. Luckily, I'm neither...but, they got me on requiring 10.5.4 OS and they got a bunch of other folks making it ONLY work on Intel machines.

    All that bullshit aside, there are some really cool looking features like:

    FLEX TIME = Elastic audio in PT
    DRUM REPLACER = another PT function
    EDIT DRUM TRACKS = Beat Detective in PT
    CONVERT TO SAMPLER TRACK = Triggering actual audio, just like Ableton LIVE

    If they get through all the bugs, it actually may be pretty damn okay...They do, however, REALLY need to get off this 'lets surprise everyone and bask in the glory of their expressive undying appreciation' nonsense. I mean, they aren't fucking Santa Claus...I can see how it might be fun for the iPhuckall fan-boys but, seriously, for folks that invest and work on this stuff, surprises are the last thing we need.

  2. stepwriterun

    Funny thing is I may just pass on this version since most of the Time I use Live anyway. The only thing that I think could be fun is the Guitar Amp designer, but Peavy has a whole app for that already. Then again, music doesn't pay my bills so I don't need the latest and greatest bullshit. The whole secrecy thing is BS too. One other thing -- have they ironed out the bugs in Logic 8 enough to warrant a leap to Logic 9?

  3. Chris Randall

    They didn't even do a point release of 8. Wasn't the last version like 8.0.2?

    -CR

  4. stepwriterun

    Yes it was 8.0.2

    They seem to want our $200

    (roll clip of paper boy on BMX bike from the 80's flick Better Off Dead)

  5. boobs

    no bug fixes in logic 8. drag.

    no PPC support which is also a drag. my quad G5 works fine. wasn't planning on upgrading to an INTEL mac pro for another year or two. so it goes. guess i can live w/logic8 and DP and live and really.. is that not enough to accomplish anything in the digital audio realm especially when you throw 3rd party plug ins in the mix?

  6. Chris Randall

    Indeed. I actually would still be fine with Cubase SX3, frankly. I think when Live 8 came out there were some very interesting things in it that extended my creative palette, but the top-line DAWs have been more or less stagnant for some time, at least from a creative standpoint.

    -CR

  7. MidiMonk

    Apple can go screw themselves, really, I lost respect for them in the last few years and this is the final nail.

  8. planes

    I liked SX3, until I moved to 4 and didn't really like 4.

    I so far haven't used Logic enough to even justify how much I spent on the thing.

  9. ZombieStomper

    I agree @planes. I've been using Logic as a "plugin" for Pro Tools and that's it. I have Logic running on a Macbook Pro which is digitally patched in to my PT system. I think the only reason I've ever even started the transport in Logic is to get BigSeq2 to work. ha!

  10. synthetic

    I don't see much here. I'll bet a lot of people stay on Logic 7. They need to bring something new to the party for people to upgrade. Looks like they're just relaunching L8 with a few new features. This really should have been a point release, stuff like individual track import and folder packing should have been there from the start.

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