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From the original Analog Industries archive. Some links and images from that era no longer resolve.
Okay, we’ve now put new installers for Replicant and Eos in the store, in addition to Panstation. If you were experiencing any problems whatsoever with getting 64-bit versions of our plugs to validate/instance/whatever, on all three platforms, these updates should sort you out.
Another thing that is worth mentioning, since it is contextual: I just got an email from the AU group at Apple informing me that Lion will be fucking up 32-bit AudioUnits. They mentioned Tattoo and Ricochet specifically, but I imagine that they didn’t do a thorough test, and whatever problems those two have will be endemic to our entire product line. This makes the 5th time, if I’m counting correctly, that an OS X update has totally crapped all over the AU kit.
I also don’t know what other manufacturers will be affected, but I can certainly guess and say “most of ’em.” So if you rely on 32-bit AudioUnits, and are, say, in the middle of a mix or something, updating to Lion should be very, very low on your list of priorities, at least until Audio Damage and other manufacturers have had a chance to put things through the ringer and figure out what’s fucking off where. This is, of course, good advice for any major OS update, but naturally most people will ignore it. So when you install on the first day, and find out that Lion fucked up your music shit, you can refer to this blog post as an official “I told you so.”
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I'm with boobs.
I'm always an extremely late adopter (I'm still running Leopard), but even then, I always install the new OS on an external drive until all the kinks are worked out. I can't understand anyone--even a hobbyist--overwriting their system with a new one in the hopes that everything will work. When has THAT ever happened!?
Not to mention the fact that it takes me at least a day or two to reinstall all the plugins and crap I've amassed over time.
So kids, if you didn't hear Chris the first time, WAIT to install Lion on your music machine. And if you can't wait, at least install it on a separate drive or partition or something.
To be honest I haven't seen anything about Lion that has made me want to install it on day one anyway, it just seems to be pulling osx toward ios.
Not to mention that Apple is awful at point-zero OS updates.
Yeah. I always (ALWAYS) wait two before updating. For this instance, I'll have to update day of, obviously, since our shit is demonstrably fucking off. But as a user, rather than a developer, I'm very much of the "if it ain't broke" school of thought with respect to OS updates.
On my music PC, I managed to get a highly tuned 32-bit Vista install going, and I still haven't updated it.
-CR
congratulations. who at apple should i address the thank you note to?
this is great news for AI readers since it means at least one funny acidic rant will erupt on this here domain.
srsly though.. wtf. can't they keep their own house in order and not turn the screws on the very people that go along with their AU insanity?
every time they remodel the house they tweak the foundation and rip up all the carpet and change the locations of all the shitters which is a bummer because most people just figured out how to find them when the lights are out.
I'm with boobs.
Adam: Best "IWB" ever
@boobs: Apple does this because it makes software vendors other than Apple look bad, and Apple wants the users to think that they are the only company that knows how to competently write code.
Personally, I say that if you are dumb enough to install *anything* on a production system on launch day than you get what you deserve. That should be in every software EULA.
I couldn't be less excited about 10.7. Everything I saw concerning 10.7 just made me think "why would I want to do that?". Except the network drop thing. I'm old and cranky though, and getting worse by the day.
My prediction for the future; Apple Open Source's what we now think of as the Mac OS and goes with the hybrid IOS for all of it computing devices. Or something like that.
At the moment, I couldn't really care less about updating my OS, I'm just thankful my favorite AD plugins work with my studio Mac - again. (Thanks, CR!)
I understand people have been suing companies for lesser reasons (than rendering devs' and customers' lives more difficult)? Being a non-US non-dev I unfortunately have no actual understanding of legislation, but... hey, if you're going to barricades, I'm joining the troops with a banner.
But when it comes to boobs, I'm with.
Like just about everyone here - I never update till I have a VERY comprehensive reason.
OS? 10.5.8
Live? 7 (and I used 4 up until I updated to 7)
In fact, I don't even buy new production models of computer either. I usually wait till a new laptop is launched and then I buy the previous model - not just because the price drops an insane amount, but also - because that is just around the time they finally got all the bugs worked out of that model.
etc etc..
Once I get something running smoothly, I don't mess with it...cos I just don't have that sort of time.
I think it also bears repeating that there's no reason (unless your DAW cannot use VSTs, or a VST version is not available) to use AUs. Chris made this point awhile back, and I think it's a smart approach to minimize the use of AUs whenever possible. It's not as wonky as say, relying on something like a Pluggo runtime, but there are times (like this) where it feels like that...
What I really don't understand is the all the hype around Apple computers in the music biz. I use a lot of plugins from different developers and I see lots of complaints about non or not correct working AU stuff in lots of forums, most of the time compatibility issues. I'd never buy an Apple system, that's for sure.
I'm pretty sure my opinion counts for shit, but I'm with Nostradamus.
Whatever works for the user, bottom line.
Whoo! a Windows vs Mac debate! Finally.
bb
I ain't gonna debate shit. I'm a Mac user. There are 5 current Macs in this house, along with an Airport Extreme, two iPads, 4 iPhones, an iPod Touch, and three normal old fashioned iPods. I'm also a PC user. My highly tuned music PC runs Windows, and I do all my development and UI work on it.
I will say that when it comes to business, and especially B2B, Apple are a bunch of fucking assholes. They always have been. They'll steal your shit or put you out of business at the drop of a hat if it suits their own moodswings, and they regularly change APIs up just to keep indie devs from resting. Microsoft are, by comparison, really fucking cool the few times I've dealt with them in B2B scenarios. Everyone's always going on about Microsoft being a bunch of greedy corporate pricks and Apple being the cool California laid-back hippie types, but the people that say this don't actually have any business history with either company. I do, and I'm here to tell you that the opposite is the simple fact of the matter.
-CR
i use both though prefer mac. ever since audiomulch went mac friendly my PC sits still as a statue. i miss a couple plug ins but not enough to go back to the windows machine. i used it once 6 months ago.
prefer mac for all the 'lifestyle' apps. itunes, iphoto, media library type things.
both PCs i have used for music were super solid. the win2k pro machine was ridiculously crash proof but was never hooked up to the internet.
the thing w/the windows machines that always bugged me was peripherals.. anything USB would only work in certain USB ports. it was bizarre and i never understood why. thumb drive works in 1 of 4 ports.. mouse worked in a different one and so on. there was always a certain amount of OS tweaking and set up to get things to function smoothly.
but there's nothing you can't do on either OS. people use what they are comfortable with or suits their work needs better.
I'm with boobs.
do you know this pretty, little story of steve jobs and the death of one of the nicest mp3-players:
http://panic.com/extras/audionstory/
I'm not offering any conjecture at all. I'm just saying that in my experience, from the standpoint of someone who actually has to do actual business with both companies, Apple are a bunch of fucking cunts, and the people at Microsoft are super-duper nice. I'm sure others have the opposite experience, and can provide a counterpoint to my argument. But those "others" are generally gigantic companies like AOL. Or countries.
Basically it comes down to this: Microsoft _loves_ indie developers. Apple puts up with them as a necessary evil.
-CR
See also:
http://scoopertino.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/connery_letter.jpg
-CR
CR: see also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7edm5fkD1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6X6ohNM3w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh0ujDmMTbw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amnpKeRivMI
The "I do not sell my soul for Apple or any other company" should probably be amended.
Perhaps Mr. Connery did not have to "sell his soul" to those other companies. That he would do those other commercials and wouldn't do Apple's possibly says something about Apple.
I'll bet he'd do a Windows commercial. ;-D
ha! hilarious connery.
celebs sell all kinds of stuff. usually not in the USA so much, though they all do the voice over work.. in japan you'll see ads with every celeb you can think of..
what it comes down to is this...
http://www.meshio.com/img/2010/bill_steve_money_1.jpg
http://www.meshio.com/img/2010/bill_steve_money_2.jpg
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