Live From The Frozen Wasteland...
From the original Analog Industries archive. Some links and images from that era no longer resolve.
Still idling in this hotel room in Spokane. I’m going a bit stir crazy, I’ll readily admit. For some stupid reason I didn’t think to bring my Duet and a pair of decent headphones, so I can’t work on music. The vast majority of work I do for Audio Damage is done on my PC, so I really can’t do that either. I’m left with fooling with Processing or Quartz Composer (both quite unfulfilling on a MacBook), staring at the ceiling, or trolling the internet in search of trouble while these tinny speakers bang out Cliqhop.
Anyhow, I’m going to be selling my Eclipse shortly, due to the imminent arrival of an H8000FW. I can’t say enough nice things about the Eclipse, as you full well know. (Or any Eventide box, for that matter. They are, and always have been, my most favoritest hardware effects makers.) I would actually kind of like to keep it, but an H8000 is four Eclipses and then some, and I don’t need five Eclipses, despite what my greedy-ass lizard hind brain might be telling me. I’m looking to get $1300 plus true shipping. It’ll come with a 1GB card, and is updated to the latest OS. I won’t be able to actually send it until the H8000 arrives, so you have some time to think about it.
The fact that the H8000 takes four AES/EBU channels has gummed up my rig of two posts ago a bit. I have to ponder how to pull that all off if I want to use all four I/O on the H8000. I’m trying to avoid the obvious, which is another Lynx AES16 card. Gotta think about that for a while.
Also, thanks once again to everyone for your kind words vis-a-vis my mother’s situation. As it turns out, it’s not as bad as was originally thought, and as a couple people mentioned in the previous thread, it’s 2009, and this sort of thing is, for want of a better word, routine. She’s having this done, if you’re curious. I’m fairly squeamish, so I don’t want to dwell on the whole process too much, but suffice to say that assuming the operation is a success, and there’s no reason to think it won’t be, she’ll be able to go home tomorrow, and so will I.
Which brings me to my final issue. Is there someone in PDX that wants to make a couple hundred bucks helping me move my sofa and a couple other items I can’t get myself on Monday or Tuesday? It would involve riding with me down to Mill City, getting the objects in question, and bringing them back to PDX. You should obviously not have back problems, and you should have a bit of common sense viz. the moving of large (albeit not that heavy) objects. Drop me a line if you’re interested.
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the Eventide H8000FW has 12 aes/ebu i/o. that dsub on the back is digital. get ready for some real routing fun once you start messing w/the routing configs in the eventide.
I have mine hooked up to my aurora8's AES i/o and the aurora8 hooked up to my fireface via the aurora adat expansion card which smux's. so i have plenty of i/o between the FF800 and the aurora
i had to get a cable made though because the H8000FW's dsub is in tascam digital format and the aurora's is in yamaha. redco did it for under $60 i think and i've not had any problems anywhere. sometimes i use the FW for routing and sometimes i use the AES.. depends on what's cookin in CPU demands. routing over FW w/the eventide requires some low ass latency to get things right and sometimes the AES i/o seem easier to manage. anyway- congrats. it's a DSP monster and just sounds stupid good.
re: cardiac ablation- i have that procedure in my future somewhere due to atrial fibrillation which i take meds to keep in check. the surgery essentially cures the problem and that means no more meds. i've discussed it w/a few different doctors and in the past year or so they've gotten way better at it and the success rates just keep going up. i know two people who've had it and all is well. plus they both got doped up on vercid and fentynol so it's a win win! btw- cardiologists are an interesting breed.
Do you prefer the Eclipse to the H3000? A lot of people seem to like the H3000 better. Probably because it's famouser.
In my personal opinion, the Eclipse is essentially the same as having two DSP4500s, which you can route in interesting ways. (Unlike the H8K, the DSP chips can't talk directly to each other, but there's two entire engines, where the 4500 only has one.) It has the entire compliment of non-broadcast 4500 algos, which means it de facto has all the algos of a blown-out H3000. The difference in sound is most likely due to the far higher quality converters of the Eclipse, which have (I feel) a bit less, uh, mojo?
Since I run it digital and don't use the converters, and did the same with the 4500, when I'm using H3K/4K algorithms I can't tell the difference at all. It programs the same and sounds the same, with the added benefit of expanded tempo sync and the much expanded I/O and internal routing capabilities.
Unless you need the broadcast stuff (i.e. unless you're a radio station) I would have an incredibly hard time coming up with a convincing argument for the 4500 over the Eclipse. You could get 3 black-faced H3000s (at least) for the price of a new Eclipse, and it still wouldn't even be in the same ballpark, plus you'd be using 6U of space where you could easily get away with one.
-CR
Oh Nice,
I'm sure you'll love the H8000, it's really got a ridiculous amount of stuff in it.
I'm actually a DSP engineer over at the 'tide, so holla if you have any questions about it. The Eclipse actually has a 4.0 version coming out soon soon as well (free upgrade). It adds some new stuff, mostly guitar related.
I prefer gear with little to no mojo. BTW, why don't you sit in your hotel room and play with GarageBand? Thomas Dolby says it is pretty cool.
With due respect to Thomas Dolby, GarageBand is cool in the same way that K-Fed is cool.
-CR
"With due respect to Thomas Dolby, GarageBand is cool in the same way that K-Fed is cool.
-CR"
so, to carry that thought out a little further, K-fed was capable of bedding down and knocking up (2 times) one on her way to meltdown batshit crazy pop star so perhaps w/garage band you could make the musical equivalent of that and thus entertain and disgust yourself for all of 15 minutes.
"The Eclipse actually has a 4.0 version coming out soon soon as well (free upgrade). It adds some new stuff, mostly guitar related."
Unlike CR, I can't quite convince myself to sell my Eclipse in preparation for the arrival of my H8000FW. (Yes, it's another dual purchase. I knew that if I didn't get one also I'd grow weary of him telling me how wonderful his is.) I can't quite convince myself that the mind-crushing power and flexibility of the H8K is reason enough to part with the Eclipse, which, based on my experience with a DSP7000, is more straightforward to actually get stuff done with. I also have enough open I/O ports to be able to have both of them hooked into my DAW. (Rack space is going to be a bigger problem, however.) The 4.0 release provides me with YA rationalization for keeping it, so thanks for reminding me of that. I have refreshed the Eventide site a few times since I read mention of an upcoming beta somewhere in the NAMM news.
Mostly I think I'll have to decide after I've lived with the H8K for awhile.
--Adam
DGillespie, I have a question: can you please port the StPlate2&Chorus algorithm to clear, concise, well-commented C++ and send it to me?
-CR
Sure,
Do you use 3 or 4 space indentation?
Dan
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